Comments on: JFK Conspiracy Con

By: jenniferlake

jenniferlake — Sun, 07 Oct 2012 20:59:12 +0000

mg– was hoping for a comeback from you. So, take this very belated response as a sign of contemplating your question. Politics aside (of which I have no background whatsoever) I’m finding insight from a book titled “Roosevelt and Frankfurter” (Max Freedman, Little Brown &Co, 1965)– a compilation of letters from F.F. to FDR. Too lengthy to post here, my purpose in reading it was to fill out my comprehension of Frankfurter’s role in world affairs– he was suspected, of course, of facilitating the spread of nuclear secrets. As the leading liberal of the New Deal and foremost American Zionist, Frankfurter strove to set up the conditions for the Great Society through FDR which entailed the fresh exercise of presidential power for those grand objectives. To the degree that the FDR/Frankfurter alliance succeeded, and within the memory of people living through it, JFK was evoking the spirited reforms of FDR that produced a public sense of confidence in government to do its job.
Wilson, simply said, provided the initial architecture for global governance, but the U.S. was nowhere near a national level of self-governance at the time to have been an effective League member (not that Americans wanted it. The League of Nations was treasonous, especially in light of the prewar promise to stay out of it!) –it would take the ‘progressive’ evolution of FDR’s administration to make that possible, then followed by the threat of atomic annihilation.
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Getting to know Frankfurter, he was born in Austria and emigrated to the U.S. at age 12. As a young lawyer out of Harvard in 1906, he entered government through the side door as aide to Henry L. Stimson.”In 1914, Frankfurter left Washington [after working for the War Dept] to become a professor at the Harvard Law School but he was back in the War Department in 1917… from 1917 on, scarcely a day passed when he did not have a conference with Roosevelt or talk with him on the phone. This was the formative period of their friendship.”
Freedman wrote in his preface, “At the Paris Peace Conference after the First World War, [Frankfurter] as the representative of Dr. Chaim Weizmann, negotiated the Zionist-Arab agreement with Lawrence of Arabia..” The brief notes then state that “Frankfurter wrote his first personal letter to Roosevelt..on January 4, 1921…”. Freedman includes that during FDR’s vice-presidential bid “on the Cox-Roosevelt ticket…[he] had never lacked the courage to praise Woodrow Wilson, then extremely unpopular, and to support the League of Nations..” (T.E.Lawrence, incidently, as the representative of King Faisal, was said to have been disgusted by the Zionist tactics at Versailles. In the midst of hard negotiations to ensure Arab sovereignty, he got a telegram that his father was dying of influenza and he left immediately for England. Spanish Flu made for a lot of chaos at Paris Peace– Pres. Wilson got sick too just as he was to press for a moderating U.S. position, which never happened apparently).
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Consider this quote from T.E.Lawrence reflecting on his experience: “We lived many lives in those swirling [Arabian] campaigns, never sparing ourselves: yet when we achieved and the new world dawned, the old men came out again and took our victory to remake in the likeness of the former world they knew.” [p272, A Prince of Our Disorder]
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Going back before WWI, Zionists were working hard to prepare for a Zionist Palestine. In 1915, Louis Brandeis wrote, “The glorious past [of the Jews] can really live only if it becomes part of the glorious future; and to this end the Jewish home in Palestine is essential. We Jews of prosperous America above all need its inspiration.” –Jan.1915, Menorah Journal.
The key to controlling Palestine after its wresting from the Turks was WATER. The Jewish Agricultural Experiment(begun 1911), headed by Aaron Aronshohn, was collecting information on hidden water resources and spying for Jewish nationalists in a project heavily funded by monied American Zionists (i.e. Julius Rosenwald). WATER control was going to factor hugely in the scheme to nuclearize Israel. It was the primary reason given after WWII to build reactors there, called the “Oasis Plan” by Lewis Strauss and Eisenhower (circa 1954), or Atoms for Water –to “make the desert Bloom”.
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So, why indeed did Kennedy point to Wilson and Roosevelt? Your question deserves thought. They were both War presidents who were surrounded by Zionist hawks, promising peace but ultimately pushing through dictatorial measures for war, lubricated by “undue influence” (Wilson had Col. House and Roosevelt had Felix Frankfurter) against the will of most Americans.

By: jenniferlake

jenniferlake — Mon, 19 Dec 2011 15:02:05 +0000

Thankyou Robert. Richard Reeves wrote the line you quoted. I hold no doubts myself that intelligence on the ground was very good, and I appreciate this information — so what were the “missiles”?
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Added note:
Here’s a quote from The Chairman, John J. McCloy (Kai Bird, 1992):
p.528
“For the first couple of days [of the Cuban Missile Crisis], McCloy concentrated on taking aside small groups of U.N. delegates and briefing them on the crisis. Many people, including some of Washington’s European allies, still needed to be convinced that even a naval blockade was necessary. After talking to several of his banking friends in London and Zurich, Lovett told Michael Forrestal, an aide to Mac Bundy on the National Security Council, that ‘documentary evidence is essential, since a number of countries –some of them our friends– will not take the President’s word alone.’ Consequently, two days later, Stevenson spoke to the Security Council and this time went through the exercise of displaying U-2 photos of the missile sites…”
–possible that the photo mission was arranged to make even more credible documentation for this very purpose? What it still doesn’t prove is the presence of warheads. In fact, reason suggests that the lack of security (which could have been intentional) meant lack of warheads and what they had out there were big hollow shells. On the way out, the very same missiles were photographed on the decks of the Soviet ships from US Navy escorts on their broadsides and from helicopters flying overhead. So, there’s plenty of acceptable evidence of “missiles”.
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“All War is Deception” –Sun Tzu

By: Robert Marble

Robert Marble — Mon, 19 Dec 2011 02:46:25 +0000

Hello Jennifer:

You wrote: “…..a claim U.S. intelligence never could verify because aerial photography
never clearly revealed storage bunkers.”

In the fall of 1962, two SEALS and a CIA photographer boarded the USS SEA LION (SS-315)
a WWII fleet submarine in Key West, FL and headed for Bahia del Mariel in Cuba.

Roy Boehm was in charge. When the sub was near enough, at night, the three men locked out of
the forward escape trunk with their equipment and a rubber boat. They paddled their boat and
after landing ashore, hid their boat and found an unoccupied warehouse near the missile off-
loading site. After observing this activity for a while, the photographer was able to get real close
and took photos on several rolls of 35mm film. After he was finished, the three men headed
back to their hidden boat. They left under darkness, paddled out to their rendezvous spot and
locked back aboard the USS SEA LION. The whole operation was undetected by the Cubans.
The photos that were taken, with their canvas covers off, identified what the missiles actually
were.

This recon and photo-shoot was not revealed until the publication of “FIRST SEAL” by CDR.
Roy Boehm and Charles W. Sasser in 1997.

Sincerely,

Robert Marble TMCS(SS) USN (Ret)
Mission Viejo, CA

By: jenniferlake

jenniferlake — Tue, 22 Nov 2011 15:23:16 +0000

Apostate, I wish I had more time to be a journalist. I was looking forward to getting it all up there too –like at once. These events are revolving doors. Every time I get in, something more spins out. The next mullable part is a proposition that New Orleans was a key point for nuclear trafficking and Oswald was there to report on it (but to whom?). The “secret cancer lab” was a layer of deception, a false-bottom package, that kept a contingent of traffickers involved in a legit-seeming clandestine operation (killing Castro) that had the blessing of the legit-seeming U.S. government. My slowness in posting is more than a time deficit. I want to write it with care.
BTW, the time deficit is temporary.
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Joan Mellen writes “When we look at all the established evidence, Oswald and Customs officials in New Orleans; Oswald as an intimate of the chief suspect in the murder of Mary Sherman, a man who called himself Juan Valdes, and who worked at the Customs House; Oswald in Clinton and Jackson with David Ferrie and Clay Shaw; we realize that there has been to date virtually no credible official investigation of Oswald.” http://www.joanmellen.com/oswald.html

By: apostate

apostate — Tue, 22 Nov 2011 11:39:08 +0000

Held off making any comments on Part 1, thinking you were going to post on Nov 21….see that’s now been changed to “soon”….pity. Today, the 22nd is quite a special day…one that those of us old enough to remember, can say exactly where they were and what they were doing at the precise moment they heard of his demise…epochal event. I was hoping to be mulling it today over in the context of your latest!

By: jenniferlake

jenniferlake — Mon, 14 Nov 2011 00:32:16 +0000

More Zapruder, known to be altered, only faster and smaller. I see the same thing faster and smaller.
B– it would cost you next to nothing except time and effort to recreate the conditions you propose. Ask Jones to help you get the specs for a reenactment. If you guys can pull off the (mock) shot in real time, film it and post it.

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Watch The Great Zapruder Film Hoax
1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvLW3IBHHvA
2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqDwyDbbDOs&feature=related
3) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9bnd71ZWdE&feature=related
4) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWlN_b25dcw&feature=related
5) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqjmza71fnY&feature=related
6) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx3pfqqttUU&feature=related

Listen to Doug Horne with Jim Fetzer, Nov.18, 2011
http://www.radiofetzer.blogspot.com/2011_11_01_archive.html
Horne makes his points about the authenticity of the Z-film
http://insidethearrb.livejournal.com/2883.html

ADDED NOTE about Kodachrome film:
“Kodak stopped making Kodachrome in 2009, and stopped making the chemicals needed to process it, a complex process that could never be done in home darkrooms…
..The story of Kodachrome..began in 1917 [with] two teenagers, Leopold Godowsky Jr. and Leopold Mannes… on his way to perform [music] in Europe in 1922, Mannes happened to meet a partner in the banking firm of Kuhn, Loeb & Company.. [who] sent a young associate, Lewis Strauss, to the Mannes apartment to view the progress. Strauss was convinced, and Kuhn, Loeb invested.” http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/12/028027.php
—Strauss was heavily invested personally in Kodachrome and through his interest, Kodak also made the dosimeter ‘film badges’ for radiation monitoring. More about Strauss, Kodak, and Rochester NY (site of the Hawkeye Works lab in Doug Horne’s interview) will be added to this series.
Here, by his own hand, is Strauss’s version, excerpted from pages 96-99 of Men and Decisions:
“As a boy, photography had been a major interest, and I had pursued it as far as the cumbersome color processes of the period. These required multiple exposures on plates sensitive to different colors or exposed through separate filters and their careful superimposition…
“In 1922, Everett Somers, who as an army sargeant had been assigned to our office in France [either Kuhn, Loeb office or Hoover food relief office assumed], introduced two young musicians, Leopold Mannes and Leopold Godowsky. They were in their teens..when they conceived a method of making photographs in color with one exposure on a single film or plate using an ordinary camera…
“Convinced [by a demonstration], I arranged for the necessary money to pay for patent applications and attorney fees and to rent and staff a small laboratory. The Eastman Kodak company co-operated by furnishing required sensitizers, dyes, and other material, but brushed the process aside as of no practical interest. Some years later, the results were so outstanding that I decided to go over the head of the officers with whom we had been dealing unsuccessfully and traveled to Rochester with Sir William Wiseman, one of my associates, to show..George Eastman himself. The upshot of that and subsequent meetings with Mr. Eastman and his director of research, Dr. Kenneth Mees, was an agreement which resulted in marketing the product called Kodachrome. Annually, it earns many millions for the Kodak Company and until the patents finally expired in 1952, was highly profitable..to all concerned.
“Another decision was to back a young inventor, Edwin H. Land, who was introduced to me..by his camp counselor, Julius Silver. Land had made a radical discovery. He had found that he could incorporate certain crystals of microscopic size in a transparent plastic medium and could alter the random arrangement of the crystals so that they were all parallel. One result was that the transparent plastic would then transmit light waves in one plane only. Light so transmitted is ‘polarized’. Light vibrating in any other plane would be blocked in varying degree… familiar to first-year physics students as a Nicol prism… The worth of this idea and the true genius of Land impressed me at once, a fact of which I am proud…
“During World War II..Land developed a device in which the gunner firing an antiaircraft gun at lifesize, three-dimensional motion pictures of planes, heard his gun, felt it vibrate, saw the stream of tracer projectiles leave its muzzle and travel on the way toward the moving targets…and no ammunition was consumed. The effect was achieved by an ingenious application of optical principles. Land has many inventions to his credit…some of them of a classified character…”
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Mannes and Godowsky didn’t just make film. They invented lenses, movie cameras and projectors. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_Mannes
…”Kodachrome film was coated with three layers of ordinary black-and-white silver halide gelatin emulsion [like a 'silver sol gel'], but with each layer made sensitive to only one-third of the spectrum…in essence. to red, green, or blue… generated in these layers as the black-and-white silver images were developed. After they had served their purpose, the silver images were chemically removed.”
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“Edwin Land of the Polaroid Corporation developed the optics for a new large format camera to be used in the U-2 mission. These new cameras were able to provide high enough resolution from 70,000 ft that you could see people on the ground.” http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPreview/Index.cfm/ID/339655
Polaroid, based in Cambridge, Mass. and cooperatively participating in wartime projects at MIT’s Rad Lab, had a lucrative contract developing the DOVE heat-seeking missile: “I visited John Lothrop [in]2010…John ran the shops that made all the mechanical prototypes at Polaroid… The mechanical work on Dove was done in John’s shop, though the shop also was doing other work. This was in part of the Kaplan building, which was also a furniture store [Osborn St]… Dr. Land was directly involved, at least early in the project. Otto Wolff was chief engineer at Polaroid and led the project.” http://markdionne.com/doveproject.html
—the “radiation lab” (radio, radar, microwave and nuclear facility) concept is part of Oswald’s CIA profile too…

By: Bernie Brauer

Bernie Brauer — Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:46:32 +0000

Jennifer,

It looks pretty clear on this film. Jackie gets the verbal signal from Connolly and then she shoots JFK.
Look at the film here:

Bernie

By: jenniferlake

jenniferlake — Fri, 11 Nov 2011 19:45:45 +0000

from the video link:

“Credits
This research stemmed from an e-mail discussion between myself and Bernie Brauer of Canada. I am indebited to Bernie for his encouragement, opinions, support and enthusiasm.”
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Bernie, I’ve come across this theory several times –that Jacqueline shot Jack– but find the film footage unconvincing. In Jones’s frame by frame, number 254 shows both of Jackie’s gloved hands with fingers extended, wrapped over JFK’s left arm as if to stabilize him. There is nothing I see anywhere to suggest Jackie shot her husband. The angle of her right forearm as she leans in is tipping downward (elbow up, hand down toward her own lap, it appears). A person could not aim and fire at close range perpendicular to this arm position. A gun in the hand is an extension of the arm.

By: Bernie Brauer

Bernie Brauer — Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:14:10 +0000

The murder of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy
researched by
Dr. Neville Thomas Jones, Ph.D.

http://www.realityreviewed.com/JFK%20murder.htm

By: melgibstein

melgibstein — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 12:26:26 +0000

Why did JFK honor Woodrow Woody Wilson and FDR in the Nixon debates? I’m sure it was all a strategy right from the start, even before Joe went into business with those ehh usurers.